This is the first national elections since I left the JW. Didn't vote. I honestly have no clue what to vote. Tried to use multiple voting advice websites that show which parties best fit your opinions, but to no avail. Apparently answering 'meh' and 'dunno' to most questions doesn't help. Ignoring politics for 35 years and priding yourself in being 'neutral' is an effective method to create such a situation.aybe next time....
Anders Andersen
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Dutch Elections
by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu invoters are going to the polls in the netherlands in the first of three crucial eurozone elections this year.
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the voter turnout might set a new record.. what do you hope will be the result?.
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New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?
by Isambard Crater ini'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.
i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.
now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?
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Anders Andersen
You really need to open your eyes to the bigger picture here instead of just living your life trying to please your parents while your own life is destroying you. How long will it be before they are dead an you can claim your freedom? You only have one life, there is no point in wasting it trying to please others in a cult where nothing you do is ever really good enough anyway. That is such a wasted life.
I was going to say something like this too
You are responsible for your own life and your own happiness. Nothing more and nothing less. Your parents are responsible for their own happiness. Not you.
That being said, welcome here! Don't let some of our stronger opinions discourage you! After all, your choices are yours to make, without our judgment (and without any medling JW judgment and gossip!)
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EU court upholds an employer's right to ban religious symbols
by careful infirst i should say that i do not like islam for multiple reasons, not the least of which is the moslem treatment of women.
still, the free exercise of anyone's peaceful observance of their religion, including moslems, trumps my personal preferences.
also, living in america, i evidently enjoy a greater degree of religious liberty than i see in recent years in continental europe, something that continues to baffle me.. today the european court of justice, the same group that has stood up for the rights of jws, has decreed that it is ok for employers to ban the wearing of religious symbols among employees.
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Anders Andersen
should a Jew be forced to take off his kippah or a Catholic woman her cross?
They're not. They're free to choose their employment elsewhere. And (without having followed this specific ruling) I'm quite sure the employer has to make a case as for why the religious symbols are unwanted in a certain function?
In my country smoking on the job is illegal. Does that force people to stop smoking?
Can a hospital demand from its JW medical employees that they provide care according to existing standards, including use of blood products?
Can a shop owner demand from his JW employee that he assists the customers with any purchase they make, including tobacco products and porn magazine?
Are the JW forced in those cases?
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Anders Andersen
GODDIDIT!
Unless you think crop circles aren't beneficial, in that case
SATANDIDIT!
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What's your degree of anti-JWness?
by Landy inso, on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is absolutely pro-jw, 5 is neutral and 10 is youtubing nutjob apostate, where do you stand?.
i'm probably around a 6. i have the view that jws are a nothing marginal religion.
if i hadn't been brought up as one i doubt they would have ever entered my consciousness.. the reasons it's a 6 and not a 5 is that i have some concerns over their child baptism and safeguarding procedures, but i think it's down to them being a bit dim rather than any pro child abusing ethos.
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- I feel pity for most individual brain washed JW members.
- I absolutely detest and hate the Watchtower
religioncult and it's lying, deceptive, and controlling leadership. Hateness level on your scale = 20.
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"You know that the Memorial is April 11 right?"
by stuckinarut2 inah, yes, so mid-way through a conversation about work, a family member just had to say "oh, you know the memorial is tuesday april 11, so i guess you will have to schedule your work so you can make it right?".
i simply said "oh is it?
" and then went back to what we were talking about.. has anyone else had the pressure to attend put on them?.
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Anders Andersen
- You know my birthday is June 21 right?
- You know Christmas is December 25 right?
SO????
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The A.R.C. broadcast on March 10. When to watch in your time zone.
by ScenicViewer inplanning on viewing or recording the live stream of the australian royal commission's investigation of watchtower on march 10, 2017?
i believe the stream begins at 10 am aedt (australian eastern daylight time); you will need to figure out when that is in your local time zone.
here is a time zone converter.
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Anders Andersen
All of the ARC's proceedings are televised and are available to view from its website and/or youtube.
But the ARC doesn't provide recordings for later viewing. They'll only present a live stream. Recording that live stream is up to us...
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I've been awake 1 year today!
by pale.emperor init was a year ago today that my life changed completely.
i'll never forget it.
i had zero friends in the kh and was never included in the "guys" drinks, football games, parties etc.
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Anders Andersen
Happy anniversary Pale Emperor!
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Does the two witness rule still stand on minor sins?
by Homer notsimpson inits been pointed out to me that two eye witnesses are always needed for elders to form a judicial case.
the sister could have sex with a brother.
she confesses and he denies, he gets off free, sure.
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Anders Andersen
A JW mock trial needs
- Two witnesses to the same event
- OR two witnesses to separate events of the same 'sin' (e.g. 2 JW both saw him smoking but at different occasions, or 2 victims that claim he touched their underage genitals, etc.)
- OR a confession from the sinner to 2 elders*
- OR two witnesses that personally heard a confession from the 'sinner' (e.g. he told his two best friends he shagged his GF, doesn't confess to elders himself, but his treacherous friends do tell on him)
Note that this information gathering is done before a JC is even started. A JC is only started when it's clear the 'sin' has been commited. During the JC they'll only verify the details of the case in order to verify how bad the perpetrator is and thus how many time he has to say a hail-Mary...erm I mean how long he'll be put on restrictions. Only in rare cases can an accused (who didn't confess) show the JC he actually didn't do whatever he's accused of. And in that case he might still be reproved for contempt of authority.
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*) These elders will preferably then not be part of the JC, but will function as witnesses to the prosecution, just as the witnesses in point 4
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Wish me all the best
by LevelThePlayingField inso i called in to my local walgreens pharmacy to get my blood pressure medicine refilled.
i go to the pharmacy to pick it up and they tell me that the doctor has denied filling it saying to them, "prescription refill not appropriate".
i asked them what that means and they say you'll have to contact your doctor on that, sorry.
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Anders Andersen
@LTPF,
Kudos to you for calling for help and at the same time encouraging and helping others!
There is no shame in asking and accepting help. On the contrary, it takes strength to acknowledge that we're not capable of doing everything by ourselves.
Good luck and much strenght to you!